Comments on: dear facebook, freedom or friends? that’s not a choice http://www.lokman.org/2010/05/06/dear-facebook-freedom-or-friends-thats-not-a-choice/ new media, global communication, journalism Wed, 18 May 2011 14:33:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Miti Aiello http://www.lokman.org/2010/05/06/dear-facebook-freedom-or-friends-thats-not-a-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-38336 Miti Aiello Wed, 16 Jun 2010 18:11:28 +0000 http://www.lokman.org/?p=522#comment-38336 There are few open-source alternatives being developed: Diaspora, Appleseed, Pip.io which offer privacy, and some are non-profit efforts.... see here [on Pip.io, Appleseed, Diaspora] http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/24/technology/24social.html?scp=2&sq=open%20source%20alternative%20facebook&st=cse and here [on Diaspora]: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/12/is-there-life-after-facebook/?scp=1&sq=diaspora%20facebook&st=Search all each of us needs is a critical mass of friends 'migrating' to the new social network, and communities/relationships could be reconstituted in no time, leaving facebook in the dust. There are few open-source alternatives being developed: Diaspora, Appleseed, Pip.io which offer privacy, and some are non-profit efforts….

see here [on Pip.io, Appleseed, Diaspora]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/24/technology/24social.html?scp=2&sq=open%20source%20alternative%20facebook&st=cse

and here [on Diaspora]:
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/12/is-there-life-after-facebook/?scp=1&sq=diaspora%20facebook&st=Search

all each of us needs is a critical mass of friends ‘migrating’ to the new social network, and communities/relationships could be reconstituted in no time, leaving facebook in the dust.

]]> By: Digest #26 : ::: Think Macro ::: http://www.lokman.org/2010/05/06/dear-facebook-freedom-or-friends-thats-not-a-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-35619 Digest #26 : ::: Think Macro ::: Wed, 26 May 2010 22:01:37 +0000 http://www.lokman.org/?p=522#comment-35619 [...] Gone Rogue; It’s Time for an Open Alternative” and “dear facebook, freedom or friends? that’s not a choice” – Just a couple of examples of people’s reactions to the recent changes in [...] [...] Gone Rogue; It’s Time for an Open Alternative” and “dear facebook, freedom or friends? that’s not a choice” – Just a couple of examples of people’s reactions to the recent changes in [...]

]]> By: Jillian C. York » Policing Content in the Quasi-Public Sphere http://www.lokman.org/2010/05/06/dear-facebook-freedom-or-friends-thats-not-a-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-34069 Jillian C. York » Policing Content in the Quasi-Public Sphere Sat, 15 May 2010 16:04:55 +0000 http://www.lokman.org/?p=522#comment-34069 [...] What Facebook offers is your network, in one, simple, easily-accessed place. Or as Lokman Tsui notes, “Facebook effectively holds our friends as hostages. The ransom is not our privacy, but our [...] [...] What Facebook offers is your network, in one, simple, easily-accessed place. Or as Lokman Tsui notes, “Facebook effectively holds our friends as hostages. The ransom is not our privacy, but our [...]

]]> By: global voices, one world » “you’ll take whatever we give you” http://www.lokman.org/2010/05/06/dear-facebook-freedom-or-friends-thats-not-a-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-33721 global voices, one world » “you’ll take whatever we give you” Thu, 13 May 2010 10:52:04 +0000 http://www.lokman.org/?p=522#comment-33721 [...] I said earlier, this is not so much about privacy, it is about freedom. Categories: emancipation, new media [...] [...] I said earlier, this is not so much about privacy, it is about freedom. Categories: emancipation, new media [...]

]]> By: stephen elliott-buckley http://www.lokman.org/2010/05/06/dear-facebook-freedom-or-friends-thats-not-a-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-33599 stephen elliott-buckley Tue, 11 May 2010 08:40:54 +0000 http://www.lokman.org/?p=522#comment-33599 Wow, I wish I wrote this piece. I totally agree. I've been thinking about a replacement for Facebook: a distributed, open source model. I hope someone who codes is working on it! http://politicsrespun.org/2010/05/what-distributed-social-media-looks-like/ Wow, I wish I wrote this piece. I totally agree. I’ve been thinking about a replacement for Facebook: a distributed, open source model. I hope someone who codes is working on it! http://politicsrespun.org/2010/05/what-distributed-social-media-looks-like/

]]> By: goose http://www.lokman.org/2010/05/06/dear-facebook-freedom-or-friends-thats-not-a-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-33405 goose Sat, 08 May 2010 21:36:39 +0000 http://www.lokman.org/?p=522#comment-33405 I think that's a good point that you made, about how they would most likely monetize through allowing search, as opposed to selling info. And Lokhin's made a good point too. Well, unfortunately, since the entire world has started FBing, a lot of ppl have abandoned their blogs, stopped using email, etc. I think that’s a good point that you made, about how they would most likely monetize through allowing search, as opposed to selling info.

And Lokhin’s made a good point too.

Well, unfortunately, since the entire world has started FBing, a lot of ppl have abandoned their blogs, stopped using email, etc.

]]> By: The “Like” button dissonance : ::: Think Macro ::: http://www.lokman.org/2010/05/06/dear-facebook-freedom-or-friends-thats-not-a-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-33401 The “Like” button dissonance : ::: Think Macro ::: Sat, 08 May 2010 21:04:29 +0000 http://www.lokman.org/?p=522#comment-33401 [...] button are steering a lot of discussion all over the internet.  My friend Lokman has already left Facebook all together and keep hearing about “Leave Facebook Day” planned for May [...] [...] button are steering a lot of discussion all over the internet.  My friend Lokman has already left Facebook all together and keep hearing about “Leave Facebook Day” planned for May [...]

]]> By: Lokman Tsui http://www.lokman.org/2010/05/06/dear-facebook-freedom-or-friends-thats-not-a-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-33242 Lokman Tsui Fri, 07 May 2010 10:13:38 +0000 http://www.lokman.org/?p=522#comment-33242 that's a good question. although facebook and twitter are very similar at first sight, there is an important difference as well. twitter always has been public, and never has been private. in contrast, facebook promised that everything is private but now is going against their word. true, you can make your tweets private, but that's only a small number of people. privacy settings in twitter are also very easy, unlike facebook. twitter also has an open api: other programs can tap into it (hence the many different twitter clients), which also makes it easy to retrieve your data. facebook is closed. it is impossible to touch your own data. i also suspect that if they would ever monetize, they do it through search, rather than through selling information to advertisers. i think what is important here are different promises and expectations. twitter never said: "tell us everything about yourself, you can trust us". facebook did promise that but is no longer living up to it. the only reason why people are not massively going away is because all our friends are on it. some feel the "trade-off" is worth it; i believe otherwise. some might think it is not worth it, but that they cannot afford to leave. this is a collective action failure: everybody would leave if everybody else would leave, but nobody leaves because nobody leaves. so maybe one individual can make a difference (or not). in any case, i had enough. that’s a good question. although facebook and twitter are very similar at first sight, there is an important difference as well.

twitter always has been public, and never has been private. in contrast, facebook promised that everything is private but now is going against their word. true, you can make your tweets private, but that’s only a small number of people. privacy settings in twitter are also very easy, unlike facebook. twitter also has an open api: other programs can tap into it (hence the many different twitter clients), which also makes it easy to retrieve your data. facebook is closed. it is impossible to touch your own data. i also suspect that if they would ever monetize, they do it through search, rather than through selling information to advertisers.

i think what is important here are different promises and expectations. twitter never said: “tell us everything about yourself, you can trust us”. facebook did promise that but is no longer living up to it. the only reason why people are not massively going away is because all our friends are on it. some feel the “trade-off” is worth it; i believe otherwise. some might think it is not worth it, but that they cannot afford to leave. this is a collective action failure: everybody would leave if everybody else would leave, but nobody leaves because nobody leaves. so maybe one individual can make a difference (or not). in any case, i had enough.

]]> By: lokhin http://www.lokman.org/2010/05/06/dear-facebook-freedom-or-friends-thats-not-a-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-33227 lokhin Fri, 07 May 2010 06:54:21 +0000 http://www.lokman.org/?p=522#comment-33227 what are the chances that twitter will 'walk' a similar path as facebook. all business models has to generate revenue at the end. what are the chances that twitter will ‘walk’ a similar path as facebook. all business models has to generate revenue at the end.

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